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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2011 11:05am
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

what?

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 5, 2011 1:04pm
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

sorry i was trying for something conceptual and failed miserably; however, let me ask you this: can you think of any other baseball players, current or past, who when referenced by their first name, everyone knows who is being referenced?

i mean, when someone says 'Babe' i don't need to hear the 'Ruth' to know who's being discussed

others i can think of:

Reggie

i know that there are a slew of players that you could give their first name, and you'd have a pretty good chance of knowing who is being referenced, for example, you say 'Rusty' i immediately think of Rusty Staub, but then he's the only 'Rusty' of worth, so it's not the same as 'Babe' where even a non-baseball person would have a fairly good idea of who you were talking about

on another note, i didn't know you were the age you are, but that means you never did get the chance to see Dwight Gooden in his prime; he didn't pitch so great against Boston in the '86 series, but he definitely was a reason why the Mets got to the post season, along with the entire starting rotation which was phenomenal; that was one hell of a team, and probably the best all-around team of the 1980s for any team in baseball

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2011 2:21pm
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

ichiro had a drop-off in his defensive performance in 2011, so no he didn't really deserve it this year. as for offense, isn't it funny that a guy can hit .272 with 184 hits and 39 stolen bases, and people say he had a terrible year? well by his standards he did have a terrible year, considering he's a .326 lifetime hitter who averages 225 hits and 104 runs per year. the mariners did make it to the alcs in ichiro's rookie season, but i would love to see him get a ring.

next to the babe, #2 has gotta be yogi.

and of course the ny centerfield debate of the '50s with willie, mickey, and the duke

after ichiro, chipper has to be the most recognizable in recent years.

some others i thought of on my walk:
cal
rickey
jackie
sandy
pedro
manny
vlad
mariano
c.c.

"on another note, i didn't know you were the age you are, but that means you never did get the chance to see Dwight Gooden in his prime"

luckily there's footage of him in his prime which i've seen. the '86 mets one one of the greatest teams ever, but man did they like to party. there was a good e60 special on him recently which had some interesting stuff on his the beginning of his cocaine use and what it did to his career. what a shame, he could have been an all-time great pitcher. he clearly had hof talent. 1985 was one of the best statistical seasons ever for a pitcher.

This post was modified by rdenirojb87 on 2011-11-05 21:21:33

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 5, 2011 5:49pm
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

oh yeah, forgot about Yogi, but of course it's a unique name and that will lend itself to being recognizable (on the other hand, Babe is pretty unique as well); and Pedro, yeah i thought about him too (he should have called it quits after '04 and left on top or near the top)

at the time, when i was closely following the team, i wasn't aware of the '86 Mets partying habits, but it's not surprising, and it does admittedly leave somewhat of a stain on the entire season ... have you read 'The Bad Guys Won!' by Jeff Pearlman? Cliff sent it to me awhile back, and it's still sitting in my pile of books to read, but maybe it's time i started it

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Nov 5, 2011 2:59pm
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

Sure this list could go on and on...

Yogi
Casey
Lou
Joe
Ted
Yaz
Hank
Mickey
Willie

etc...

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2011 3:19pm
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

whose first name is yaz? :P

not to be picky, but some people would also think of hank greenberg, with hank. change it to henry and it can be added to the list. yogi, willie, and the mick were mentioned.

i wouldn't include lou either. my first thought was actually lou brock. joe could be joe jackson. imo the ones i mentioned, there's really only 1 person people could possibly think of. time for a new topic i suppose for the mets fans.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Nov 5, 2011 3:46pm
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

Is there any more unique name in baseball than Van Lingle Mungo?

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2011 4:51pm
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

Old Hoss Radbourn gives him a run for his money.

lol, check out old hoss' stats from 1884:
W: 59-12
ERA: 1.38
GS: 73
CG: 73 (that's right. 73 starts and 73 complete games. pitchers today are pussys. they don't condition their arms like they used to)
IP: 678.2 (all-time record of course)
SO: 441
WHIP: 0.922

they should call it the Old Hoss Award! forget cy young.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Nov 5, 2011 4:57pm
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

Actually Old Hoss threw underhand from a distance of 45 feet in 1884. His other claim to fame was this photo:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Old_Hoss_Radbourn_finger.jpg

He's the guy in the upper left flipping the bird.


Big Ed Walsh in 1908 is the the all time leader in innings pitched in a season since the mound was moved to its current 60 feet 6 inch distance (464). He also won 40 games that year.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 5, 2011 5:59pm
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

i imagine not having a mustache must have been seen as a form of protest?

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Nov 5, 2011 6:37pm
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There is actually 2 teams pictured together in this 1886 opening day photo. The left side with the gray hats are the Boston Beaneaters, and the right side players in white are the NY Giants.

The player to the right of the guy in the top hat is John Montgomery (Monte) Ward, the last National League pitcher to throw a perfect game prior to Jim Bunning in 1964 (Ward in 1880).

This post was modified by DeadRed1971 on 2011-11-06 01:37:56

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2011 6:45pm
Forum: sports Subject: Re: Baseball Poll

haha, the ones with no mustache probably couldn't grow facial hair. i'm sure the non-mustached didn't garner much respect amongst teammates.

never read that book you mention but it sounds like a fun read. if you ever get off your lazy keister and decide to read it, let me know if it's worth the time.



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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2011 5:12pm
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haha, very nice photo, thanks. you're one of the few people who actually knew who old hoss was when i've brought him up.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Nov 5, 2011 5:18pm
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Did you know that James (Pud) Galvin, another great pitcher from the era was the first ball player to use performance enhancing drugs? He used to inject himself with monkey testosterone between games.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2011 5:28pm
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haha i know of pud galvin, but i did not know that interesting factoid.

did you know babe ruth used to put a piece of cold lettuce under his cap to keep him cool, that he would change every 2 innings?

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Poster: unclejohn52 Date: Nov 5, 2011 4:16pm
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Thinking of Lou Gehrig, but Lou Brock's not too shabby either. Also was thinking of Carl Yastrzemski, referred to by some as Yaz. Henry or Hank, it's Aaron. And there's only one Joltin' Joe.

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 5, 2011 1:31pm
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going to take my fozzie bear for a walk now, and i'll think of some of those players while i'm walking. the first one that comes to mind is ICHIRO!

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 5, 2011 1:34pm
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ahh yes, the noble Ichiro, i was disappointed by him not getting the gold glove for his 11th consecutive year, but on the other hand, maybe he didn't really deserve it? i don't follow Seattle all that closely, altho i would love to see that team get to the post-season while Ichiro is still on the roster

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 5, 2011 6:27pm
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Ozzie
Fernando
Rollie
Brooks

I think we could do this for a while....

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Nov 5, 2011 6:47pm
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"I think we could do this for a while..."

true, but discuss with someone who is not into baseball and the list narrows considerably

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